So I am having an issue romancing Waltz & Fritz, I have looked up walkthroughs and I don't have their options in chapter 2, is there something I need to do differently? or is it a dlc (I haven't found any dlc on itchi.io or steam). if anyone has any answers that would be great. thank you1
I cried in every route (reluctantley).how dare you(love the story). im currently on the last route.Waltz'.Excuisite game. my favorite is Karma and waltz.
Exllent!!!!!OMG I love your game so much!!!A very complete game!! I have to say, the plot and BGM are well matched. I really, really like Rod and Waltz (I also really like Varg, but I heard the plot is a bit sad and I haven't played it yet). I really like this type of theme!! Thank you to the author for providing me with such a great gaming experience!!!
Looooved the route with Rod! I had to play that one twice but surprisingly I liked both endings, the good and the bad one. Waltz was another character I really liked and he felt like the "real" love interest, BUT that magical pentagram magic effect annoyed me after a while especially during "fight scenes", it was used waaaay too often and slowed everything down (that's why I'm deducting one star). Other than that it was a great story and I liked the main character and her backstory.
This is one of my favourite visual novels, it is quite important that the characters are well designed and beautiful for the eyes of the reader, for the story to be more immersive. In my opinion, the developers did a great job! I'm so in love with Klaude, such a prince charming... 🩷
For a free visual novel, the design, story and lore are more than really good. Beautiful illustrations, endearing characters who all have different well-constructed stories that make us want to discoveir their mysteries. First I played in the recommended order, then when I unlocked Waltz I went straight to his route. So let's start with Rod.
!!! SPOILERS !!!
For anyone who says Rod's route is incest, I disagree. Firstly, they're not related by blood. Secondly, Rod and Lucette didn't grow up together and only knew each other for a few months at the start of the game. Rod doesn't see Lucette as his sister, and vice versa. In fact, Rod tells her so on several occasions. And even later, when he begins to have feelings for her, she's not his family because she's more important. Of all the routes, Rod is currently my favorite. It's the one I found best written, and I really enjoyed the dynamic between him and Lucette. And their illustrations are really beautiful.
Then I played Karma's. I had a hard time getting into her story at first. I wasn't really interested in his story until chapter 7 or 8. Karma isn't a bad character, and he's pretty well written. It's all a matter of taste. His curse was very interesting, however, and I wasn't expecting such an ending. Fritz's death, on the other hand, made my heart ache a little. What I really like is the fact that Lucette learns to stand up for herself. No longer a helpless princess, she eventually learns to fight and protect the people she cares about.
The last route I played was Waltz, which I really enjoyed, even if it didn't win first place, being definitely won by Rod. Like Karma's road, Lucette learns to defend herself. Waltz is really lovely with Lucette, she's a good person and her illustrations are just beautiful. He was the one I was most attracted to before starting the game. And once again, the end of the waltz route almost made me cry. His discussion with his father, the fact that he (finally) apologizes for his behavior, only to die in his daughter's arms some time later, was just terrible. Parfait's disappearance also did something to me.
I don't intend to play the Rumpel route, it doesn't interest me at all. As for Fritz, I'll probably play his route later.
However, I must point out that Lucette, the character we play, is deeply misunderstood. No one, not even the king, who in my opinion is a bad father, ever told her that she wasn't guilty of her mother's actions in manipulating her into being a perfect opinionles dool. I know the kinh explains his reasons, but in my opinion, he is largely responsible for what happens to Lucette. Not to mention the fact that no one has ever tried (except Waltz, Rumpel but he's lost his memory, Parfait, Amelaigne, Ophelia and Karma) to see Lucette as anything other than "Hildyr's daughter".
In any case, I recommend the game. Thank you for your work !
this game was pretty good for a free visual novel and i liked the character designs a lot! i was pretty curious about karma from the very start but decided to go route wise.
**SPOILERS AHEAD**
in my opinion, rod's route was unique AND enjoyable. though the inc*st made players uncomfortable, the story was well-executed and kept me on the edge of my seat! his relationship with the girl from the doll shop (victoria?) really piqued my interest. just like all the other routes, his bad end was pretty sad but well-written. i like tsunderes, and that is one of the reasons why i liked his route. but man, him disappearing in his bad end was something hard for me to accept :(
as i said before, i was curious about karma, and so, developed a huge crush on him before even the start of his route (his appearance in the common route stole my heart) and he looked so damn pretty as a woman! i'm also into men that flirt with any women they see, but have a sad backstory; so his route was a win-win for me! also, the fact that he was a runaway prince also made my heart dance! his curse was fascinating and left me wanting more and more (i'm a huge fan of 'The Beauty and The Beast'!) his bad end was also pretty depressing and I CAN'T BELIEVE I KILLED THE LOVE OF MY LIFE WITH MY OWN HANDS ON FIRST TRY!
rumpel. his route was my least favourite because of his saint-like personality! yes, i do respect his desire to save people, but WHAT ABOUT LUCETTE!? my love for flirtatious men does NOT apply to him and i will never put him in the same league as karma. also, he might love lucette, but i hate him.
first of all, please let me sob for varg. WHY DID THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN TO MY BELOVED VARG!? and personally, i would choose him over some knight guy. i have a love-hate relationship with this route. like, WHY IN THE WORLD DOES VARG HAVE TO DIE IN BOTH ENDS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!? no, i don't like fritz and hate me for it, but my baby varg did not deserve that.
finally, waltz! him being lucette's friend in the past has to be one of the best things in the game! also, the fact that lucette taught him how to sew is SOO SWEET! i could never not love him for being by lucette's side since so long. he was one of the best MLs in the game and i love and respect him for it.
now, the game itself. the RCI is one of the best things to have been created and i love the 'achievements'! the art on each end is so phenomenal and mesmerizing that i screenshot the interface after completing all of them! the opening song is also good and the OSTs are just *chef's kiss*
the side characters were also pretty well-written, but i hate how atleast one of them dies in each of the routes. and: lucette's mom was a freaking m*lf and i love her for that 'cuz being such a majestic creature erases all of her sins in my eyes <3
rod and rumpels route was so icky like it's just so weird??? it honestly makes me feel like throwing up thinking about the age gap and the fact that theres a romance route for the mcs literal step brother is insane
I haven't played this game in so long but yeah Rumpel was ehhh, and with Rod is also is ehhh. Spoilers for the second game, but they do try to erase the step brother thing in canon so they can ACTUALLY be together. Still unnecessary though so I'm with you
Im so enjoying playing this game, im now playing Karma route but i first played Rod route, wich gave me a lot of thoughts, because, even though they are no blood related, they are still step-siblings. Im not gonna lie, there were moments where i'd find their interection cute, but i wanted their relationship to grow into something platonic, and not romantic, because its incest and disgusting. When you love someone doesnt necessary mean that needs to be in a romantic way but also in a platonic way.
Thats all i have to say, but the game story is really well done
honestly they aren't related, I haven't played yet, did they grow up together for a very long time? After a quick start at playing it seems like they were only together for some of their lives, I hardly think that counts as incest. Without giving spoilers, there was not exactly a sibling bond ever formed.
No, their parents married literally a few months ago. They live in a huge castle and never see each other because they don’t like each other at first—neither are willing to even acknowledge the marriage essentially—they do not see each other as family at all. Not even as acquaintances as strangers—they won’t talk to each other even as strangers. They didn’t know each other at all beforehand.
I will say that irl I wouldn’t approve. I don’t think it necessarily would be the end of the world but I would advise against it. Irl they couldn’t be living in the same household that’s for sure—like they couldn’t be dating at all. Only if they were adults living on their own and moved out of their parents home.
I will say that I’m not a completionist—there’s lots of Otome games where I literally only play one route and don’t play any of the others if I don’t like them. Rod’s route is my favorite in this game because of his personality. Karma was my second favorite. I didn’t like Fritz or Rumpel—this was my first Otome game I ever played so I did finish these routes, but I would have skipped them if I was playing the game for the first time today. Waltz was just okay.
Hi I was wondering how to start the game over from scratch? I want to delete the saved data from the game and don't know how to. Any help would be appreciated.
Began playing this on stream and knowing that stans for this game go hard: we dropped out of this game early on because of using cross-dressing as a punchline and romancing an underage person. Additionally, the "rules of the world" kept getting broken every other scene and we had a difficult time suspending disbelief long enough to really get invested in the story.
I'm sure the game has redeeming qualities. People seem to be all in on this title. It was just a miss for us.
I never felt like Lucette got better; she'd have brief moments of self-awarness that seemed fleeting at best. While the mama trauma was well done, I'll give the game that, Lucette coming to the realization that her mom wasn't the best was painful.
Delora was pretty much the only character I liked. Generally the sane voice in the room. Parfait as her counter-part worked well. I genuinely enjoy how the two played off each other well. But that's about the end of the positives I found in the game.
To each their own. Glad people are finding it enjoyable but don't think we'll be coming back to this one to finish it.
I´m just so in love with this game, I love the story,the characters, and the CG´s are really pretty. The protagonist is really well writen, I loved all of her redemption arc, and my favorite route and character is Karma, and of course I have some crittiques.( some spoilers ahead ).
At the moment, I played only Karma´s, Rumpel´s and Fritz routes, and currently playing Waltz´s route.I´m not really interessed in playing Rod´s route, just for the fact that he is Lucette´s STEP-BROTHER, even if they are not blood related, and have not much interaction in a familiar environment, I think it´s still quite disgusting, and still are incest.
Rumpel´s route was really strange, when you think of the age gap between him and Lucette, his behaviour was really rubbing me the wrong way I fell that he was trying to have Sanji´s type of flattering but failed miserably and was just acting like an old men trying to captivate a much younger girl.In this route I also felt that Lucette just have a abrupt change of feeling bothered by Rumpel to being in love with him, I just thinked that it needed more development.
- Now Fritz`s route, oh boy, that route really irritated me, I´ve had really high expectations on this route, and it really bothered me that I felt like this was more a Mythros and Hyldr´s route than Fritz`s, we just couldn´t see much interaction between him and Lucette and because of this I just felt like they have no chemistry at all.Varg really got on mine nerves, at first I thought Fritz´s curse was the Black Swan, and I really liked the concept of his curse, but at the same time I just couldnt fell that this curse was really a part of Fritz psique, in the beggining of the game, we got to see him caring and worrying about Lucette but that never gave me something to believe that Varg was already a part of Fritz´s personality.The kiss scene between Varg and Lucette made me really uncomfortable, in my perspective, that scene could even be considered SA, and Lucette also asking herself why would he make this if he doesnt like her made me really go ´´swettie, that´s not the point´´.Anyways, I really liked the development that Delora got, and also liked that we got to see more of Lucette and Hyldr relationship.
Despite that, I really loved the game and will look forward to play the sequence and complete Waltz route.Hope to see more games by yall! <3
anyone know how to get rods good ending i got his bad ending the first time i played and later i went back to try again but i did not know what to do to change his out come / he still died and i still got the bad ending.
also for anyone's route if you want to avoid spoilers and also want the good ending you can save at every choice and wait to see the diamond within a few dialogues. if you dont see it go back and choose the other
I played Rod's and Karma's routes, both good and bad endings and I loved this game. I loved all the plots, characters, everything, except Delora. In Lucette's place I would develop my magic, being good to everyone and mean it, but would fry her as soon I was able to do that! There is no point saying she is a motherly figure as she is the only one who doubts Lucette will eventually show any goodness and acts genuinelly surprised when Lucette shows that she is wrong. I am unable to see any redeeming qualities on her. She is, in my opinion, one of the reasons the humans have hate for witches and engaged in hunting them. EDIT: After playing all the routes my favorite one is Fritz's just because it is the one that allows to rebel and spoil Parfait's and Delora's plan. It's the one closest to my rebel nature.
I played this long before I even had an account here and I loved it!! Each LI is unique and interesting. The little nods to other fairytales are fun and fit into the story seamlessly. I played it a few times back then, but I'm keeping this in a collection to play again for sure. Thankfully, having inattentive-type ADHD means I will someday get to play again with very little memory of the details!! Even now there are fuzzy bits, so my replay may be close at hand and I could not be more excited.
This is really well made, I like the story going for it and it has some interesting and funny parts about it, though one of my main gripes though is the fact that you can ROMANCE Rod? Like, literally all the characters, even the LI and MC acknowledge that it's immoral, you shouldn't do it, it's weird, etc. etc. yet it's still persued? And even after the fact the characters acknowledge that it's wrong by having to sneak around and be covered for? Like, don't get me wrong I'm all for forbidden love stories, but not when it starts tredding on implied incest, whether by blood or not. They acknowledge they are family at the end of the day. I think Rod's curse could've been broken WITHOUT going a romantic love route, maybe not making the mc related to him, or just a new curse altogether, just to avoid it being so WEIRD.
All in all, the game is pretty good. It has it's flaws like all things but that is the most obvious itching one possible that just sours the experience quite a bit for me.
Edit: After some more time playing the game because I do actually enjoy the plot, going through Rumpel's route I learn he's 24????? WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE ROUTE THE MC IS 17???? WHY COULDN'T THE MC AT LEAST BE 18 OR 19 AND SHE BECOMES THE BEARER AT 19 OR 20 PLEASE THAT WOULD MAKE THIS SO LESS WEIRD!! It's SO undeathly uncomfortable to be forced to play uncomfortable, playfully "taboo uwu" routes just to progress in this game especially since it doesn't get specified in the beginning so that the demographics that DON'T like these sorts of things can avoid them and play a more tasteful route. In my honest opinion, I feel like this game benefited from a young, naive demographic from the early 2010s of anime that thought these things were so "uwu kawaii" or whatever so things like this would get less scrutiny. But now, with higher media literacy, definitely not so much. Not from me at the very least.
I'm not actually that up in arms about the game, but it's still the matter that you have to play these routes and you, as the player who would/could otherwise not enjoy these things have to go through it to get to the other two locked routes and if said player is like me who otherwise enjoys the plot, would be stuck with going through two uncomfortable routes with only one bearable one out of three. Especially since there's a certain order for the game to be played in to get the full extent of the lore. So real or not, it's still uncomfortable and can have a negative effect on people in some way, shape and/or form.
Yea it's alright. It's just the matter that I wish they went about the two differently. And the thing is is that all the other routes (Karma, Fritz and Waltz) are actually really good and I really liked them, but it gets so damn SOUR when, to get to the latter two, I have to play at least ONE other route and the other two options besides Karma are so damn uncomfortable to play. Doesn't help that in said routes, they try to play being self aware about the fact it's not really okay and is pretty taboo but 'it's okay cause it's true love!' and whatnot. I hate it
I can understand your frustration with having to finish the route that you are uncomfortable with. I think that many feel okay with his route because they are still unrelated and haven't grown up together, so many don't view it as incest. I personally liked his and Waltz's route the best, but to each their own!
OMG THANK YOU!! i was obsessed with this game and tbh i still am... BUT IM SO GLAD SOMEONE HAS THE SAME THOUGHTS AS ME!! i was disappointed abt the age gap and the weird incest... sob sob ILYY
I came back to replay this game. Partially because I heard the song Karma Chameleon and I thought of Karma :D Partially because I remembered we received Evermore as a Chritmas gift. This is still one of my favorite otomes <3 Everything about it is wonderful, the art, the story, the music, the writing. (The right choice indicator is a godsend because the logic behind the right choice is quite backwards sometimes x.x more so in some routes than others.)
But my favorite part are the characters and relationships. I appreciate how in each route we not only get close to the LI, but one or more side characters as well. Also appreciate how each LI is so different, yet they all work so well with Lucette. They all need her in their life and it makes me sad that they can't all have their happily afters at once. ;; I just adore them all and want them to be happy. Still, I can see why Waltz is the true route, with everything coming full circle. And I may or may not be partial to him too. :)
Also have to say, I cried so much. Especially Fritz's route is just so sad ;; Waltz's route also made me cry a few times, but at least that was a mix of sad and moved tears. Fritz... was just pure sadness, so much tragedy in his route. And he himself is so tragic too. Not sure if I can give him the most tragic character title because Rod is a strong contender as well... I really just want to hug all these boys and keep them safe and happy. ;;
Look at me, I'm just rambling. I just have so much emotions about this story, it really means a lot to me. Don't know if you guys are still looking at comments even... but if you do, once more, thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for blessing us all with this masterpiece <3
i just replayed this game after finishing evermore and i really love this story i'm sad it came to an end but i will be excited for the next game you released if you are that is i mean this game was perfect i loved the story, art, music, sound affects, character's the mc all of it my favorite routes has to be karma, rode and waltz
This game is amazing! I love it! Such high quality. Lucette is quite the character and totally different than most protagonists. Please keep making games! You have the talent!
Played in 2017 on another platform and loved the shit out of it. I remember playing every single route, taking my sweet time - I spent almost 25 hours on it and still remember it to this day. Excellent game and an example of how in this genre every single narrative thread can add to the world building, making earlier paths more meaningful in hindsight. Both good and bad endings added so much to the story as a whole. Really well done!
This was one of the first otome games I ever played, be it years since the first time I played it. I think everyone here would agree that this game is a true masterpiece in every way. There simply isn't a reason not to play it.
This game, it's amazing. I grew up with it after my da introduced it to me, and it holds a special place in my heart. The heroine is so well written, and so are the other amazing characters. The fantasy setting is laid out nicely, along with the original music in the game!
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So I am having an issue romancing Waltz & Fritz, I have looked up walkthroughs and I don't have their options in chapter 2, is there something I need to do differently? or is it a dlc (I haven't found any dlc on itchi.io or steam). if anyone has any answers that would be great. thank you1
Here again asking if anyone know if game runs on Joiplay? I want to try it but these days im SUPER busy so on my phone would be better played 😋
I cried in every route (reluctantley).how dare you(love the story). im currently on the last route.Waltz'.Excuisite game. my favorite is Karma and waltz.
ME TOOOO :D
Mobile port? Or will game run using Joiplay?
Game work on joiplay? Because i try and force close
Im asking because i don't know if it does or not
Exllent!!!!!OMG I love your game so much!!!A very complete game!! I have to say, the plot and BGM are well matched. I really, really like Rod and Waltz (I also really like Varg, but I heard the plot is a bit sad and I haven't played it yet). I really like this type of theme!! Thank you to the author for providing me with such a great gaming experience!!!
Looooved the route with Rod! I had to play that one twice but surprisingly I liked both endings, the good and the bad one. Waltz was another character I really liked and he felt like the "real" love interest, BUT that magical pentagram magic effect annoyed me after a while especially during "fight scenes", it was used waaaay too often and slowed everything down (that's why I'm deducting one star). Other than that it was a great story and I liked the main character and her backstory.
wish me luck guys im playing cinderella phenomenon for the 3rd time because I cant buy evermore </3 (HEARTBROKE AND BROKE)
This is one of my favourite visual novels, it is quite important that the characters are well designed and beautiful for the eyes of the reader, for the story to be more immersive. In my opinion, the developers did a great job! I'm so in love with Klaude, such a prince charming... 🩷
For a free visual novel, the design, story and lore are more than really good. Beautiful illustrations, endearing characters who all have different well-constructed stories that make us want to discoveir their mysteries. First I played in the recommended order, then when I unlocked Waltz I went straight to his route. So let's start with Rod.
!!! SPOILERS !!!
For anyone who says Rod's route is incest, I disagree. Firstly, they're not related by blood. Secondly, Rod and Lucette didn't grow up together and only knew each other for a few months at the start of the game. Rod doesn't see Lucette as his sister, and vice versa. In fact, Rod tells her so on several occasions. And even later, when he begins to have feelings for her, she's not his family because she's more important. Of all the routes, Rod is currently my favorite. It's the one I found best written, and I really enjoyed the dynamic between him and Lucette. And their illustrations are really beautiful.
Then I played Karma's. I had a hard time getting into her story at first. I wasn't really interested in his story until chapter 7 or 8. Karma isn't a bad character, and he's pretty well written. It's all a matter of taste. His curse was very interesting, however, and I wasn't expecting such an ending. Fritz's death, on the other hand, made my heart ache a little. What I really like is the fact that Lucette learns to stand up for herself. No longer a helpless princess, she eventually learns to fight and protect the people she cares about.
The last route I played was Waltz, which I really enjoyed, even if it didn't win first place, being definitely won by Rod. Like Karma's road, Lucette learns to defend herself. Waltz is really lovely with Lucette, she's a good person and her illustrations are just beautiful. He was the one I was most attracted to before starting the game. And once again, the end of the waltz route almost made me cry. His discussion with his father, the fact that he (finally) apologizes for his behavior, only to die in his daughter's arms some time later, was just terrible. Parfait's disappearance also did something to me.
I don't intend to play the Rumpel route, it doesn't interest me at all. As for Fritz, I'll probably play his route later.
However, I must point out that Lucette, the character we play, is deeply misunderstood. No one, not even the king, who in my opinion is a bad father, ever told her that she wasn't guilty of her mother's actions in manipulating her into being a perfect opinionles dool. I know the kinh explains his reasons, but in my opinion, he is largely responsible for what happens to Lucette. Not to mention the fact that no one has ever tried (except Waltz, Rumpel but he's lost his memory, Parfait, Amelaigne, Ophelia and Karma) to see Lucette as anything other than "Hildyr's daughter".
In any case, I recommend the game. Thank you for your work !
MY FIRST OTOME GAME!!!
this game was pretty good for a free visual novel and i liked the character designs a lot! i was pretty curious about karma from the very start but decided to go route wise.
**SPOILERS AHEAD**
in my opinion, rod's route was unique AND enjoyable. though the inc*st made players uncomfortable, the story was well-executed and kept me on the edge of my seat! his relationship with the girl from the doll shop (victoria?) really piqued my interest. just like all the other routes, his bad end was pretty sad but well-written. i like tsunderes, and that is one of the reasons why i liked his route. but man, him disappearing in his bad end was something hard for me to accept :(
as i said before, i was curious about karma, and so, developed a huge crush on him before even the start of his route (his appearance in the common route stole my heart) and he looked so damn pretty as a woman! i'm also into men that flirt with any women they see, but have a sad backstory; so his route was a win-win for me! also, the fact that he was a runaway prince also made my heart dance! his curse was fascinating and left me wanting more and more (i'm a huge fan of 'The Beauty and The Beast'!) his bad end was also pretty depressing and I CAN'T BELIEVE I KILLED THE LOVE OF MY LIFE WITH MY OWN HANDS ON FIRST TRY!
rumpel. his route was my least favourite because of his saint-like personality! yes, i do respect his desire to save people, but WHAT ABOUT LUCETTE!? my love for flirtatious men does NOT apply to him and i will never put him in the same league as karma. also, he might love lucette, but i hate him.
first of all, please let me sob for varg. WHY DID THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN TO MY BELOVED VARG!? and personally, i would choose him over some knight guy. i have a love-hate relationship with this route. like, WHY IN THE WORLD DOES VARG HAVE TO DIE IN BOTH ENDS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!? no, i don't like fritz and hate me for it, but my baby varg did not deserve that.
finally, waltz! him being lucette's friend in the past has to be one of the best things in the game! also, the fact that lucette taught him how to sew is SOO SWEET! i could never not love him for being by lucette's side since so long. he was one of the best MLs in the game and i love and respect him for it.
now, the game itself. the RCI is one of the best things to have been created and i love the 'achievements'! the art on each end is so phenomenal and mesmerizing that i screenshot the interface after completing all of them! the opening song is also good and the OSTs are just *chef's kiss*
the side characters were also pretty well-written, but i hate how atleast one of them dies in each of the routes. and: lucette's mom was a freaking m*lf and i love her for that 'cuz being such a majestic creature erases all of her sins in my eyes <3
I loved all routes! I will replay this gem in the future again. Still after all the years one of my favourites <3
I'm with user Yura here, having a step brother route is crazy icky...
rod and rumpels route was so icky like it's just so weird??? it honestly makes me feel like throwing up thinking about the age gap and the fact that theres a romance route for the mcs literal step brother is insane
you're so real for that
Facts. I'm doing them just to unlock Waltz and Fritz, but sheesh
I haven't played this game in so long but yeah Rumpel was ehhh, and with Rod is also is ehhh. Spoilers for the second game, but they do try to erase the step brother thing in canon so they can ACTUALLY be together. Still unnecessary though so I'm with you
Im so enjoying playing this game, im now playing Karma route but i first played Rod route, wich gave me a lot of thoughts, because, even though they are no blood related, they are still step-siblings. Im not gonna lie, there were moments where i'd find their interection cute, but i wanted their relationship to grow into something platonic, and not romantic, because its incest and disgusting. When you love someone doesnt necessary mean that needs to be in a romantic way but also in a platonic way.
Thats all i have to say, but the game story is really well done
honestly they aren't related, I haven't played yet, did they grow up together for a very long time? After a quick start at playing it seems like they were only together for some of their lives, I hardly think that counts as incest. Without giving spoilers, there was not exactly a sibling bond ever formed.
but it doesn't change the fact they're step siblings that's what icked me horribly personally
No, their parents married literally a few months ago. They live in a huge castle and never see each other because they don’t like each other at first—neither are willing to even acknowledge the marriage essentially—they do not see each other as family at all. Not even as acquaintances as strangers—they won’t talk to each other even as strangers. They didn’t know each other at all beforehand.
I will say that irl I wouldn’t approve. I don’t think it necessarily would be the end of the world but I would advise against it. Irl they couldn’t be living in the same household that’s for sure—like they couldn’t be dating at all. Only if they were adults living on their own and moved out of their parents home.
I will say that I’m not a completionist—there’s lots of Otome games where I literally only play one route and don’t play any of the others if I don’t like them. Rod’s route is my favorite in this game because of his personality. Karma was my second favorite. I didn’t like Fritz or Rumpel—this was my first Otome game I ever played so I did finish these routes, but I would have skipped them if I was playing the game for the first time today. Waltz was just okay.
So disapointed cant play because it is hosted on and incompatible 3rd party website:(
You can download on Steam.
Hi I was wondering how to start the game over from scratch? I want to delete the saved data from the game and don't know how to. Any help would be appreciated.
If you're on windows, open File Explorer and go to:
%APPDATA%\RenPy
You should see a directory named CinderellaPhenomenom-<XXXX>
You can then remove all your save, and the persistent file if you want to erase the "already seen" lines.
Began playing this on stream and knowing that stans for this game go hard: we dropped out of this game early on because of using cross-dressing as a punchline and romancing an underage person. Additionally, the "rules of the world" kept getting broken every other scene and we had a difficult time suspending disbelief long enough to really get invested in the story.
I'm sure the game has redeeming qualities. People seem to be all in on this title. It was just a miss for us.
I never felt like Lucette got better; she'd have brief moments of self-awarness that seemed fleeting at best. While the mama trauma was well done, I'll give the game that, Lucette coming to the realization that her mom wasn't the best was painful.
Delora was pretty much the only character I liked. Generally the sane voice in the room. Parfait as her counter-part worked well. I genuinely enjoy how the two played off each other well. But that's about the end of the positives I found in the game.
To each their own. Glad people are finding it enjoyable but don't think we'll be coming back to this one to finish it.
I´m just so in love with this game, I love the story,the characters, and the CG´s are really pretty. The protagonist is really well writen, I loved all of her redemption arc, and my favorite route and character is Karma, and of course I have some crittiques.( some spoilers ahead ).
At the moment, I played only Karma´s, Rumpel´s and Fritz routes, and currently playing Waltz´s route.I´m not really interessed in playing Rod´s route, just for the fact that he is Lucette´s STEP-BROTHER, even if they are not blood related, and have not much interaction in a familiar environment, I think it´s still quite disgusting, and still are incest.
Rumpel´s route was really strange, when you think of the age gap between him and Lucette, his behaviour was really rubbing me the wrong way I fell that he was trying to have Sanji´s type of flattering but failed miserably and was just acting like an old men trying to captivate a much younger girl.In this route I also felt that Lucette just have a abrupt change of feeling bothered by Rumpel to being in love with him, I just thinked that it needed more development.
- Now Fritz`s route, oh boy, that route really irritated me, I´ve had really high expectations on this route, and it really bothered me that I felt like this was more a Mythros and Hyldr´s route than Fritz`s, we just couldn´t see much interaction between him and Lucette and because of this I just felt like they have no chemistry at all.Varg really got on mine nerves, at first I thought Fritz´s curse was the Black Swan, and I really liked the concept of his curse, but at the same time I just couldnt fell that this curse was really a part of Fritz psique, in the beggining of the game, we got to see him caring and worrying about Lucette but that never gave me something to believe that Varg was already a part of Fritz´s personality.The kiss scene between Varg and Lucette made me really uncomfortable, in my perspective, that scene could even be considered SA, and Lucette also asking herself why would he make this if he doesnt like her made me really go ´´swettie, that´s not the point´´.Anyways, I really liked the development that Delora got, and also liked that we got to see more of Lucette and Hyldr relationship.
Despite that, I really loved the game and will look forward to play the sequence and complete Waltz route.Hope to see more games by yall! <3
Originally know this game from steam, its the game that got me into otome games, this is one of my all time favourites!
anyone know how to get rods good ending i got his bad ending the first time i played and later i went back to try again but i did not know what to do to change his out come / he still died and i still got the bad ending.
theres's a walkthrough on steam! heres the link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=928888203
also for anyone's route if you want to avoid spoilers and also want the good ending you can save at every choice and wait to see the diamond within a few dialogues. if you dont see it go back and choose the other
it'll be fun if in Rod's bad ending, when he disappear his rabbit AKA Sebby just flop on the ground and the MC just keep Sebby as a souvenir
I played Rod's and Karma's routes, both good and bad endings and I loved this game. I loved all the plots, characters, everything, except Delora. In Lucette's place I would develop my magic, being good to everyone and mean it, but would fry her as soon I was able to do that! There is no point saying she is a motherly figure as she is the only one who doubts Lucette will eventually show any goodness and acts genuinelly surprised when Lucette shows that she is wrong. I am unable to see any redeeming qualities on her. She is, in my opinion, one of the reasons the humans have hate for witches and engaged in hunting them. EDIT: After playing all the routes my favorite one is Fritz's just because it is the one that allows to rebel and spoil Parfait's and Delora's plan. It's the one closest to my rebel nature.
Used to play this game and I love it.
I played this long before I even had an account here and I loved it!! Each LI is unique and interesting. The little nods to other fairytales are fun and fit into the story seamlessly. I played it a few times back then, but I'm keeping this in a collection to play again for sure. Thankfully, having inattentive-type ADHD means I will someday get to play again with very little memory of the details!! Even now there are fuzzy bits, so my replay may be close at hand and I could not be more excited.
HIGHLY RECOMMEND!
This is really well made, I like the story going for it and it has some interesting and funny parts about it, though one of my main gripes though is the fact that you can ROMANCE Rod? Like, literally all the characters, even the LI and MC acknowledge that it's immoral, you shouldn't do it, it's weird, etc. etc. yet it's still persued? And even after the fact the characters acknowledge that it's wrong by having to sneak around and be covered for? Like, don't get me wrong I'm all for forbidden love stories, but not when it starts tredding on implied incest, whether by blood or not. They acknowledge they are family at the end of the day. I think Rod's curse could've been broken WITHOUT going a romantic love route, maybe not making the mc related to him, or just a new curse altogether, just to avoid it being so WEIRD.
All in all, the game is pretty good. It has it's flaws like all things but that is the most obvious itching one possible that just sours the experience quite a bit for me.
Edit: After some more time playing the game because I do actually enjoy the plot, going through Rumpel's route I learn he's 24????? WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE ROUTE THE MC IS 17???? WHY COULDN'T THE MC AT LEAST BE 18 OR 19 AND SHE BECOMES THE BEARER AT 19 OR 20 PLEASE THAT WOULD MAKE THIS SO LESS WEIRD!! It's SO undeathly uncomfortable to be forced to play uncomfortable, playfully "taboo uwu" routes just to progress in this game especially since it doesn't get specified in the beginning so that the demographics that DON'T like these sorts of things can avoid them and play a more tasteful route. In my honest opinion, I feel like this game benefited from a young, naive demographic from the early 2010s of anime that thought these things were so "uwu kawaii" or whatever so things like this would get less scrutiny. But now, with higher media literacy, definitely not so much. Not from me at the very least.
Take a chill pill, it's not real.
I'm not actually that up in arms about the game, but it's still the matter that you have to play these routes and you, as the player who would/could otherwise not enjoy these things have to go through it to get to the other two locked routes and if said player is like me who otherwise enjoys the plot, would be stuck with going through two uncomfortable routes with only one bearable one out of three. Especially since there's a certain order for the game to be played in to get the full extent of the lore. So real or not, it's still uncomfortable and can have a negative effect on people in some way, shape and/or form.
This explanation makes sense. I'm sorry you felt uncomfortable.
Yea it's alright. It's just the matter that I wish they went about the two differently. And the thing is is that all the other routes (Karma, Fritz and Waltz) are actually really good and I really liked them, but it gets so damn SOUR when, to get to the latter two, I have to play at least ONE other route and the other two options besides Karma are so damn uncomfortable to play. Doesn't help that in said routes, they try to play being self aware about the fact it's not really okay and is pretty taboo but 'it's okay cause it's true love!' and whatnot. I hate it
I can understand your frustration with having to finish the route that you are uncomfortable with. I think that many feel okay with his route because they are still unrelated and haven't grown up together, so many don't view it as incest. I personally liked his and Waltz's route the best, but to each their own!
I totally agree!
OMG THANK YOU!! i was obsessed with this game and tbh i still am... BUT IM SO GLAD SOMEONE HAS THE SAME THOUGHTS AS ME!! i was disappointed abt the age gap and the weird incest... sob sob ILYY
I LITERALLY SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS LIKE A YEAR AGOO BYE HELEPE
totally agree with you
I came back to replay this game. Partially because I heard the song Karma Chameleon and I thought of Karma :D Partially because I remembered we received Evermore as a Chritmas gift. This is still one of my favorite otomes <3 Everything about it is wonderful, the art, the story, the music, the writing. (The right choice indicator is a godsend because the logic behind the right choice is quite backwards sometimes x.x more so in some routes than others.)
But my favorite part are the characters and relationships. I appreciate how in each route we not only get close to the LI, but one or more side characters as well. Also appreciate how each LI is so different, yet they all work so well with Lucette. They all need her in their life and it makes me sad that they can't all have their happily afters at once. ;; I just adore them all and want them to be happy. Still, I can see why Waltz is the true route, with everything coming full circle. And I may or may not be partial to him too. :)
Also have to say, I cried so much. Especially Fritz's route is just so sad ;; Waltz's route also made me cry a few times, but at least that was a mix of sad and moved tears. Fritz... was just pure sadness, so much tragedy in his route. And he himself is so tragic too. Not sure if I can give him the most tragic character title because Rod is a strong contender as well... I really just want to hug all these boys and keep them safe and happy. ;;
Look at me, I'm just rambling. I just have so much emotions about this story, it really means a lot to me. Don't know if you guys are still looking at comments even... but if you do, once more, thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for blessing us all with this masterpiece <3
Hello I'm having trouble downloading on windows TwT
Can someone help me plz
estará en español?¿, realmente quiero jugarlo
esoo hago, aunque cuesta un poco que digamos!
traanquilaa, estaa bien
No, en serio, fui realmente grosera. Te pido disculpas de todo corazón.
i just replayed this game after finishing evermore and i really love this story i'm sad it came to an end but i will be excited for the next game you released if you are that is i mean this game was perfect i loved the story, art, music, sound affects, character's the mc all of it my favorite routes has to be karma, rode and waltz
the story is amazing, been playing since 2017 HOWEVER how has no one mentioned romancing rod is a lil weird? stepbro??
this is my first time playing it since i thought it would be a friend end
also why is mc barely legal ???
YEA that's my same gripe too, especially since both characters acknowledge that you're family but still go on and do what they do anyways.
Also most of the characters are adult men it just feels so weirdddddd
Karma, my favorite boy always.
This game is amazing! I love it! Such high quality. Lucette is quite the character and totally different than most protagonists. Please keep making games! You have the talent!
God this is such a good game but why do I always torture myself by purposefully getting the bad endings! I'm gonna go cry in the corner now😭
did you figure it out? i'm having similar issues
Played in 2017 on another platform and loved the shit out of it. I remember playing every single route, taking my sweet time - I spent almost 25 hours on it and still remember it to this day. Excellent game and an example of how in this genre every single narrative thread can add to the world building, making earlier paths more meaningful in hindsight. Both good and bad endings added so much to the story as a whole. Really well done!
This was one of the first otome games I ever played, be it years since the first time I played it. I think everyone here would agree that this game is a true masterpiece in every way. There simply isn't a reason not to play it.
Also Waltz is best boi in my opinion
I finished all routes. A true work of art. Im just sad that we can't actually romance Varg...
Isn't he like- Fritz's alter ego? If you go His route, doesn't that mean that you romance him for awhile?
Nah, our character clearly hates him :/
oh, ok
This game, it's amazing. I grew up with it after my da introduced it to me, and it holds a special place in my heart. The heroine is so well written, and so are the other amazing characters. The fantasy setting is laid out nicely, along with the original music in the game!
I just started the game and there is a contract thing. I tried to click something but I doesn't do anything, what should I do
Thank you